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Post Ignition Embedded Appliance
Alrighty, Time to make this public.

We are currently creating ARM based solutions that will be running Ignition. The base PC itself will have the following specs

Phase 1 - (Target June 15) - Freescale iMX.283 processor, clocked at 484 MHz. Suitable for a small gateway appliance, data tunneler, the spoke on a hub and spoke implementation.

Phase 2 - (Target August 1) - Freescale iMX.502 processor, clocked at 800MHz. Suitable for small to medium gateway appliance, data tunneler, touch screen interface, or the hub and spoke implementation.

Phase 3 - (Target October 1, depends when released from freescale) - Freescale IMX.6 - Single, Dual and Quad Core iMX.6 processors, clocked at 1.2 GHZ. This will be able to do anything you can currently do with Ignition, including acting as a base server for medium sized installation.

Memory - 1 GB
Storage - mSATA SSD (up to 128 GB storage) - default is 32 GB

Ports/Slots
2x Gigabit Ethernet ports, 1x MAC each
4x USB 2.0 ports, for storage, connectivity, touch screen.
1x DVI Port, for display
2x RS-232/485 Ports, Hardware configurable, DB-9 connection
1x mPCI slot, with options for cellular modem, wifi, and bluetooth

Screens (Optional)- 6",10" and 15". Custom screens up to 24"

The enclosure itself is an all metal enclosure, anodized "Ignition" blue, with an orange Ignition logo on the side.
DIN rail mounted box
A small OLED screen is on each enclosure, to display information about performance, state, etc.

10 - 31 VDC Power
-40 to 85 C rating
CSA Class 1 Div 2 rating, groups A,B,C,D

Without a SSD, the machine will run Ignition, with no local database. If an SSD is installed, then the embedded database will start up and be present in the system, ready for Ignition to use.

Upgrade Ignition or base OS by simply plugging in a USB drive.

Developed with Inductive Automation and Oracle.

Final pricing is to still be set, but it will competitive with existing competition. We currenly have 5 out of the box configurations planned, and an open license box.

1) OPC -UA Gateway - OPC-UA server on a box
2) Panel Edition - same as current panel edition
3) Standard Edition - Local control and trending, batching, etc.
4) Datalogger Edition - Store data to a database, or CSV
5) Ignition Data Gateway - To be used with a larger central Ignition server. Seamlessly move Ignition data from the plant floor/production field to a central SCADA server.

6) Open License - Ability to license on your own.


Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:33 pm
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Post Re: Ignition Embedded Appliance
Nice! I like the server offering too.

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Post Re: Ignition Embedded Appliance
Hi, The company I work for and myself have taken an interest in trying to get an ignition server functioning properly on an ARM device, specifically the relatively new Raspberry Pi.
It's proving to be a bit of a task unfortunately and I was hoping to find out at what stage the project described is at, when it will be available for use and if there was any information on pricing as of yet.
If it's not too far off, I'll probably scrap this project, it's giving me nothing but headaches so far! Unless of course you'd like to supply me with the source code :wink: !


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Post Re: Ignition Embedded Appliance
The raspberry pi is horribly incapable of producing the results your looking for. There is couple pi threads on here that suggests alternatives. It is possible though. Jordan Clark was the guy that posted some great screenshots and comments.


Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:45 pm
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Post Re: Ignition Embedded Appliance
Yeah, I was getting that impression, ARMv6 etc etc...
Thanks I'll have to have a look when I have a chance
As it stands I'm just looking at using a relatively cheap embedded x86 or x64 linux server from compulab for now


Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:50 pm
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If you want to play with the image I have:

http://inductiveautomation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=31462#p31462

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Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:33 am
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Post Re: Ignition Embedded Appliance
Thanks for that, love your description of the RPi " very important research and development hardware", how long did you have to wait for delivery? I was lucky, managed to get in before the sites crashed. But going to have to order revision 2 I do believe!

It will be interesting to see how the server runs on it (when it runs properly), I didn't think the client would run particularly well but for such a cheap piece of equipment, having the server on such a cheap piece of arm based hardware running linux, setting up redundancy and even multiple remote servers would be awesomely cheap and sending updates via SD card to those remote ones not so well connected would be very convenient! Really, for non-essential services that don't require perfect timing, it could even be used as an effective remote IO rather than having to spend unnecessary amounts on other hardware.

I think this is a project well worth doing!! :D


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Post Re: Ignition Embedded Appliance
Getting Ignition to run on the ARM platform has a few hurdles to surpass. Our boxes are delayed, however, should be releases late Q1 2013 to early adopters.


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Post Re: Ignition Embedded Appliance
Have you looked at CuBox:

http://solid-run.com/


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Post Re: Ignition Embedded Appliance
That is one sweet little device :thumb_left:
DennisWomack wrote:
Have you looked at CuBox:
http://solid-run.com/
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Post Re: Ignition Embedded Appliance
Here is another one to look at:

www.pengpod.com

Is the Allwinner A10 an ARM 7 cpu? Java for it? Compatible with Ignition?


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The PengPod and PengStick both look nice. The Allwinner A10 SoC is an ARM Cortex-A8 which is ARMv7 (don't you love ARM versioning?) so it should run headful Java :). The company seems to only be 3 guys, so we'll have to wait and see if they can deliver...

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Post Re: Ignition Embedded Appliance
Question to Kyle Chase: Are we there yet?

We are eager to get try ARM version of Ignition. We see this as great opportunity to make rugged and compact SCADA/HMI appliance for us and our partners and bring new capabilities with it.


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Post Re: Ignition Embedded Appliance
I'll jump on this question, too.

I'm particularly interested in a small Ignition client that I could hook to a small touchscreen. I have one customer who is about to write a P.O. for $8000 worth of A-B PanelView Plus terminals, and all I can think about is how much more usable machine information he could get from Ignition.

Maybe if I buy him a bunch of iPads he'll stop and listen.


Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:17 am
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Post Re: Ignition Embedded Appliance
Actually, we had some set backs mid last year, but have been forging forward for the last 6 months.

Current state of the project.
- Prototype hardware is in our hands. Quad Core, 2 GB Ram, mSata for storage.
- Custom OS is 75% done. Boots to Ignition, in about 1.5 minutes from cold boot. We are working on this bringing down. Optimizations regarding power consumption still being worked on. Network and system configuration menus being built.
- Benchmark quite (will be open sourced upon release of our hardware) is working, to benchmark system changes.
- Hardware enclosure - To meet Classification requirements, we are still designing this.

I will update this thread more frequently.


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